How Lisa Rubin became MSNBC’s 'eyes and ears' at the Trump trial

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The first time Lisa Rubin was in the same room as Donald Trump, the reporter and former president were in Miami, where Trump was being arraigned on charges that he mishandled top secret documents and refused the government’s demands to return them.

“It was also the first time that I saw him do something that I have since seen him do many times,” the MSNBC legal correspondent recalled, “which is to stand up and look at the crowd and try to ascertain if there are friendly faces there and really scan to look who’s there. And I remember finding it really chilling at the time.”

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